{"id":2253,"date":"2023-01-21T15:48:32","date_gmt":"2023-01-21T21:48:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/?page_id=2253"},"modified":"2025-02-25T06:52:25","modified_gmt":"2025-02-25T12:52:25","slug":"idea-solar-watering","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/?page_id=2253","title":{"rendered":"Idea: Solar watering"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Attach a solar panel to a peltier cooler, let water condensing on the cold side on a teflon pad run down a tube to the ground.  With the device mounted on a hollow stake, the water can be delivered to the ground near the plant without losses due to evaporation.  The hot side of the peltier would be connected to a heat sink and passively cooled.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Let&#8217;s estimate how much water can be generated.  Dave Jones at EEVblog helps with his assessment of a kickstarter scam that uses the same idea for a self-filling water bottle, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=BhnoSREmWVY&amp;t=29s\">link<\/a>.  2264 kJ to condense 1 liter of water = 629 watt-hours (Wh).  And he helpfully mentions that peltiers are typically 50% efficient.  <br><br>Cooling water to the dew point (~15C in Illinois in the summer, ~30C in Arizona) takes 4kJ \/ degree C per liter * 15 degrees = 60 kJ, a negligible additional amount.  A peltier device can easily cool 15-30C below ambient 25-40C outdoor temperatures.<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Let&#8217;s go with a 10W solar panel, figure 50Wh per day.  Let&#8217;s figure 25% efficiency for power-&gt;cooling.  So 12.5 Wh \/ 629 Wh = 2%, so the device would generate 20 ml of water.  With more sun or better efficiency, could get 40-80ml of water.<br><br>A water drop is 50ul, so 20ml is 400 drops.  Over 10 hours, the device generates an average of 2 drops of water every 3 minutes.<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How much water does a plant need?  A quick search gives estimates per week ranging from 15-30 ml \/ day (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.greenhousemag.com\/article\/gmpro-0310-water-plants-automating-irrigation\/\">link<\/a>) to 2.25 liters \/ week (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.microdrips.com\/en\/blog\/drip-irrigation\/how-much-water-plants\/\">link<\/a>), or 320 ml \/ day.  A solar water generator can make water on the low side of this estimate, so enough for maybe one plant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Cost<\/strong><br>$30  10W solar panel<br>$20 peltier<br>$2 heat sink (used)<br>$10 wires, stake, teflon (patch or tube)<br>&#8212;&#8212;<br>$62 total.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><br>Use high voltage to collect dew \/ fog, <a href=\"https:\/\/hackaday.com\/2025\/02\/24\/atmospheric-water-harvesting-with-high-voltage\/\">link<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>high voltage module, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ebay.com\/itm\/335389684463?_skw=high+voltage+module&amp;itmmeta=01JMXCQBPTDJRCDJ598GCDZ4W2&amp;hash=item4e16c872ef:g:iAwAAOSwXZxjMU-i&amp;itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA0FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1daFogiffnw7sn0Mx7anWOEV4wzTQd4qRAE2%2B3fCKOWY2Q%2Fh6uDUfPCkzUJCGVmdYBtJoE1vwTNhhAFBP4TEe%2FgwZo%2Bkv7oZzwuNx1HGB9J7C%2BTlAqL1aYbaH7kVt0wHzsGbpDwnsMIVkp8eiyjXZu8msJ2dT7IYIOGPEB7unRbS3PmErYdn6tSMMwgQSOZmL0tGCafo0ETNjtWAUtn8lG3tH2HM%2Bc8XRsKwf8Bdk1Fukvs%2BA0eY98uh8dvl4WC%2FYQ%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9a73aynZQ\">$3-$4<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><br><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Attach a solar panel to a peltier cooler, let water condensing on the cold side on a teflon pad run down a tube to the ground. With the device mounted on a hollow stake, the water can be delivered to the ground near the plant without losses due to evaporation. The hot side of the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-2253","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/2253","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2253"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/2253\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2751,"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/2253\/revisions\/2751"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2253"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}