{"id":1219,"date":"2019-03-03T10:31:16","date_gmt":"2019-03-03T16:31:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/?p=1219"},"modified":"2019-04-27T13:47:17","modified_gmt":"2019-04-27T18:47:17","slug":"carbon-capture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/?p=1219","title":{"rendered":"Carbon capture"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The basic problem with carbon capture is energy, and energy is cost. When coal or oil is burned, heat and CO2 are produced. CO2 is a pretty low energy form of carbon. Turning it into something solid (calcium carbonate, graphite or coal) requires a lot of energy. Also, when CO2 is made by burning fossil fuels it disperses, and re-concentrating it requires energy. That&#8217;s why carbon capture proposals often include using exhaust gas, grabbing the CO2 before it disperses. The other main type of capture I&#8217;ve seen proposed takes the CO2, concentrates it to high pressure, and pumps it underground (and hopes it stays there). Compressors take a lot of energy, and so do pumps if the CO2 needs to be piped hundreds of miles to a place where it can be pumped underground.<\/p>\n<p>The key number for carbon capture is, how much energy is required relative to the amount generated by burning the fossil fuel? I&#8217;ve never seen articles about it touting this number. A quick look shows one assessment being 30% &#8211; 35% of the energy (<a href=\"pics\/zhang2014.pdf\">Zhang et al, 2014<\/a>), another figures the production cost of electrcity with carbon capture being 62% &#8211; 130% higher (<a href=\"pics\/white2003.pdf\">White et al, 2012<\/a>, Table 6) Another article looks at the harder case, CO2 capture from air, and estimates the cost at $1000\/ton CO2 (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC3251141\/\">link<\/a>). Burning the coal to generate a ton of CO2 (1\/3 of a ton coal) generates about $80 of electricity.<\/p>\n<p>So the best case cost of carbon capture&#8211;from power plant exhaust gas&#8211;is dismal, 25%, 75%, maybe over 100% of the value of the electricity. This number will translate directly to increased fossil fuel energy costs (+30%, +100%, etc.) if fossil fuel companies are required to capture the majority of the CO2 pollution they generate.<\/p>\n<p>All the carbon capture projects are basically stalling actions. The fossil fuel companies pay small $$ to put together a pilot plant (or better yet, get the govt to fund it), run tests for years, but never implement CO2 capture on a coal or gas energy plant. This had been a very successful approach for the fossil fuel industry, they&#8217;ve managed to stall things for 50 years already!<\/p>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The basic problem with carbon capture is energy, and energy is cost. When coal or oil is burned, heat and CO2 are produced. CO2 is a pretty low energy form of carbon. Turning it into something solid (calcium carbonate, graphite or coal) requires a lot of energy. Also, when CO2 is made by burning fossil [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19,14],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1219","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-sci-general","category-science"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1219","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1219"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1219\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1254,"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1219\/revisions\/1254"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1219"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1219"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/jimlund.org\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1219"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}